N&T #993: Protest marches

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Re: N&T #993: Protest marches

Postby Wanderer » Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:55 pm

In any event, the entire protest day went smoothly. Well, when the employees were smart enough to clear things ahead of time. When they weren't that smart, reality ensued. The Left is, of course, screaming that the business owners who fired said workers have no right to terminate someone just for bailing without notice. :roll:
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Re: N&T #993: Protest marches

Postby unclemonty » Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:16 pm

Disregarding our increasingly corrupt dictionaries and keeping it simple--If a citizen of one nation is living in another country illegally, that person should not be called an immigrant. The terms I like are: Alien, trespasser, invader, intruder...
Immigration should be considered the legal process in which a person relinquishes citizenship in their previous country, and becomes a citizen of another.

But maybe I'm just irritable because I live in a state in which an illegal alien can get a driver's license.
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Re: N&T #993: Protest marches

Postby Deckard Canine » Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:28 pm

A Mexican secretary has declared that they don't want the illegal immigrants back in their country. Or at least they don't want a relocation camp on Mexican land.

If I were pres, I think I'd make it clear to Mexico that if they didn't accept responsibility for their illegals, they would be considered an invasionary force -- tantamount to an act of war.
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Re: N&T #993: Protest marches

Postby Wanderer » Sun Feb 26, 2017 3:21 am

Deckard Canine wrote:A Mexican secretary has declared that they don't want the illegal immigrants back in their country. Or at least they don't want a relocation camp on Mexican land.

If I were pres, I think I'd make it clear to Mexico that if they didn't accept responsibility for their illegals, they would be considered an invasionary force -- tantamount to an act of war.


Well, it wouldn't just be their illegals, but it would only be while the hearings were concluded. Of course, given our legal system, that can take a while, so I can understand Mexico not being crazy about an "indefinite time period" prisoner holding area being constructed on their land.

But, no, allowing people to cross their border is not considered an act of war unless those people are an organized portion of their military. Otherwise they'd have declared war on us back when that vet took a wrong turn across the border with his gun in the back of his truck, and both sides are glad that didn't happen.
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Re: N&T #993: Protest marches

Postby wolfie_inu » Sun Feb 26, 2017 7:20 am

Wanderer wrote:Well, it wouldn't just be their illegals, but it would only be while the hearings were concluded. Of course, given our legal system, that can take a while, so I can understand Mexico not being crazy about an "indefinite time period" prisoner holding area being constructed on their land.

It'd serve them right for blocking off their border to illegals from the south, and yet actively helping people to get into the US.

Wanderer wrote:But, no, allowing people to cross their border is not considered an act of war unless those people are an organized portion of their military. Otherwise they'd have declared war on us back when that vet took a wrong turn across the border with his gun in the back of his truck, and both sides are glad that didn't happen.

Because one guy making a wrong turn is totally comparable to actively assisting millions of criminals across a border.
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Re: N&T #993: Protest marches

Postby Mike Van Pelt » Sun Feb 26, 2017 7:25 am

I decided years ago... If I ever make a wrong turn in El Paso, and see an "entering Mexico" sign, I am standing on the brakes. I WILL NOT cross that border, period, at all, no matter what. (I decided that when an American got tossed into Mexican prison for one expended piece of brass in his car. I could never be certain I hadn't missed one.)
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Re: N&T #993: Protest marches

Postby Wanderer » Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:33 pm

wolfie_inu wrote:
Wanderer wrote:Well, it wouldn't just be their illegals, but it would only be while the hearings were concluded. Of course, given our legal system, that can take a while, so I can understand Mexico not being crazy about an "indefinite time period" prisoner holding area being constructed on their land.

It'd serve them right for blocking off their border to illegals from the south, and yet actively helping people to get into the US.


(shrug) Hey. no argument. Again, though, this would be more than just Mexicans being stored in Mexico -- this would be any illegal aliens whose hearings were still being held. (I'm not sure we should do that to the 5% who are Canadian, mind you, but anyway...) I don't think we're asking much, but I can see why they'd have an issue with it.

Wanderer wrote:But, no, allowing people to cross their border is not considered an act of war unless those people are an organized portion of their military. Otherwise they'd have declared war on us back when that vet took a wrong turn across the border with his gun in the back of his truck, and both sides are glad that didn't happen.

Because one guy making a wrong turn is totally comparable to actively assisting millions of criminals across a border.


"Allow" is the operative word there, Wolfie. The closest the Mexican government has ever come to assisting illegal immigrants in any official capacity was that pamphlet they put out for all immigrants -- which, please note, warned against illegal immigration as a stupid and dangerous activity.

Besides, remember what one of our soldiers can do. Remember Afghanistan, where we're still trying to convince them that one soldier snapped and killed that many people...
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Re: N&T #993: Protest marches

Postby The J.A.M. » Sun Feb 26, 2017 3:17 pm

Mike Van Pelt wrote:I decided years ago... If I ever make a wrong turn in El Paso, and see an "entering Mexico" sign, I am standing on the brakes. I WILL NOT cross that border, period, at all, no matter what. (I decided that when an American got tossed into Mexican prison for one expended piece of brass in his car. I could never be certain I hadn't missed one.)

You won't have to worry about that. There are only 3 (or 4?) ways of getting to Mexico from El Paso, and all of those are bridges (The Rio Grande/Bravo, you know), so I think there are plenty of signs available to warn you beforehand.
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Re: N&T #993: Protest marches

Postby Wanderer » Sun Feb 26, 2017 3:19 pm

The J.A.M. wrote:
Mike Van Pelt wrote:I decided years ago... If I ever make a wrong turn in El Paso, and see an "entering Mexico" sign, I am standing on the brakes. I WILL NOT cross that border, period, at all, no matter what. (I decided that when an American got tossed into Mexican prison for one expended piece of brass in his car. I could never be certain I hadn't missed one.)

You won't have to worry about that. There are only 3 (or 4?) ways of getting to Mexico from El Paso, and all of those are bridges (The Rio Grande/Bravo, you know), so I think there are plenty of signs available to warn you beforehand.


Turnarounds are another story, though. On our side of the border, it's assumed that if you're headed that way, you mean to head that way. That's how the guy wound up crossing the border in the first place.
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Re: N&T #993: Protest marches

Postby unclemonty » Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:12 am

Is it so very wrong that I was pondering how to deliver illegals back to their countries, and decided on air-dropping them in large padded packing crates (with parachutes, of course!) from military cargo/transport aircraft?
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Re: N&T #993: Protest marches

Postby wolfie_inu » Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:13 am

unclemonty wrote:Is it so very wrong that I was pondering how to deliver illegals back to their countries, and decided on air-dropping them in large padded packing crates (with parachutes, of course!) from military cargo/transport aircraft?

Seems practical. You don't need drop training to sit in a crate.
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Re: N&T #993: Protest marches

Postby Pneumarian » Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:38 pm

wolfie_inu wrote:
unclemonty wrote:Is it so very wrong that I was pondering how to deliver illegals back to their countries, and decided on air-dropping them in large padded packing crates (with parachutes, of course!) from military cargo/transport aircraft?

Seems practical. You don't need drop training to sit in a crate.

Plus it can double as temporary housing!
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Re: N&T #993: Protest marches

Postby wolfie_inu » Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:39 pm

Pneumarian wrote:
wolfie_inu wrote:
unclemonty wrote:Is it so very wrong that I was pondering how to deliver illegals back to their countries, and decided on air-dropping them in large padded packing crates (with parachutes, of course!) from military cargo/transport aircraft?

Seems practical. You don't need drop training to sit in a crate.

Plus it can double as temporary housing!

Or a coffin, if the chute fails!
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Re: N&T #993: Protest marches

Postby Bitey » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:24 pm

wolfie_inu wrote:
Pneumarian wrote:
wolfie_inu wrote:
unclemonty wrote:Is it so very wrong that I was pondering how to deliver illegals back to their countries, and decided on air-dropping them in large padded packing crates (with parachutes, of course!) from military cargo/transport aircraft?

Seems practical. You don't need drop training to sit in a crate.

Plus it can double as temporary housing!

Or a coffin, if the chute fails!

Only if no one finds it before the corpse stinks it up too much.
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